About this office

A rich history and a proven, innovative process has connected Dale Carnegie training to people around the world seeking real transformation and impactful results.

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Meet the Team

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Mack Shwab

Executive Director

Mack has a beautiful wife of 17 Years and one awesome 9 year old daughter. His hobbies include: Paddle Tennis, Jiu-Jitsu, Golf and Jet Skies.

Noteworthy Accomplishments: Kidney Donor, Board of Trustee the DePaul School and National Ranked Pro-Freestyle Jet skier

Work Experience

  • 15 years of entrepreneur expertise. Sold last technology company to a private equity firm in 2015
  • Lead API Strategist for Fortune 50 Healthcare company
  • 22 years as Dale Carnegie trainer
  • Currently Executive Director for the Dale Carnegie franchisee that oversees Kentucky, Southern Indiana, and Cincinnati Ohio

Education and Certifications

  • B.A. in Speech Communications from Southern Illinois University
  • 22 years as a trainer and is now certified to develop and endorse other Dale Carnegie Trainers
  • Certified in the following curriculum areas: human relations, conflict management, leadership, sales, presentations skills, process improvement, communications, and change management.

Dick Brien

Director of Training

Work Experience:

Since 2009, Director of Training for Sullivan University Professional Development (SUPD)/Dale Carnegie Training at Sullivan University.

11 years in various management positions including Training Manager for Aftermarket Technology Corp.

10 Years in Management positions at Jonathan Corp., Norfolk VA

17 years in various positions with Eastman Kodak Co. Finished in Sales with of Business Systems.


Education and Certifications:

MBA from Webster University

B.S. in Education from the State University of New York at Brockport

Trainer and Master Trainer for Dale Carnegie Training (42 years)

Six Sigma Master Black Belt

Achieve Global Master Trainer


Government Experience (Military):

5 years as an Air Force Pilot and had logged over 700 combat hours in Viet Nam


Industry Training Experience:

Manufacturing, Kodak, Jonathan Corp. and ATC.

Defense Contractor, Jonathan Corp. with US Navy


Community Participation:

Member of the Board of Directors of Boys and Girls Haven

Past-President of the Executives Club of Louisville

Former, Board of Directors of the Louisville Downtown Rotary Club

Chairman of ASQ (American Society for Quality) Section 912

Past President of Sales Management & Marketing Association (SMA) KY

Past President of Sales and Marketing Executives of Virginia Beach.

Dick’s 1st contact with U of L was as a Mentor for the Football Team

And then a Mentor for U. of L. School of Business & Public Administration

Norfolk Chamber of Commerce “Distinguished Downtowner’s” award

Awarded 2 Distinguished Flying Crosses and 11 Air Medals from the US Air Force

Along with many other awards and decorations

Leah King

Office Manager

Leah grew up in far Western Kentucky on the beautiful Lake Barkley and met her wonderful husband of 9 years, Erik King, at Berea College where they both studied music performance. Erik also works in the same Dale Carnegie Office as a Consultant!



B.A. in General Music from Berea College

M.Ed. in College Student Personnel from University of Louisville


Work Experience:

2016-Present-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie

2013-2015-University of Louisville, held multiple positions in College Housing and Admissions/Academic Counseling.

2011-2016-Hostess at J. Alexander’s.

2005-2010-Berea College, held multiple positions in Housing and Residence Life.


Cindi Carman

Training Consultant/Trainer

Cindi lives in Floyds Knobs, Indiana. She has worked with Dale Carnegie for the past 2 years and quickly become a trusted trainer.


Work Experience:

2016-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie


Callie Jahn

Training Consultant/Trainer

Callie resides in Jeffersonville, IN with her fiancé. She was elected the youngest city counsel woman at the age of 23. She has worked at Dale Carnegie for the last 2 years and quickly became one of our most valued trainers.


Work Experience:

2016-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie


Popular Training Seminars:

Communicating Across Generations

Time Management

Communicating with Different Personality Styles

Erik King

Training Consultant

Erik King was born in the Philippines and grew up in Louisville, KY. He studied piano performance at Berea College, where he met his wife Leah King.

Work Experience:

2017-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie

2015-2017-State Farm Insurance

2011-2015-J. Alexander’s Restaurant

Kevin Greer

Training Consultant

Kevin Greer resides in Lexington, KY and is the biggest Wildcat fan! Naturally his favorite color is blue.


Work Experience:

2017-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie