About this office

A rich history and a proven, innovative process has connected Dale Carnegie training to people around the world seeking real transformation and impactful results.

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Meet the Team

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Mack Shwab

Executive Director

Mack has a beautiful wife of 17 Years and one awesome 9 year old daughter. His hobbies include: Paddle Tennis, Jiu-Jitsu, Golf and Jet Skies.

Noteworthy Accomplishments: Kidney Donor, Board of Trustee the DePaul School and National Ranked Pro-Freestyle Jet skier

Work Experience

  • 15 years of entrepreneur expertise. Sold last technology company to a private equity firm in 2015
  • Lead API Strategist for Fortune 50 Healthcare company
  • 22 years as Dale Carnegie trainer
  • Currently Executive Director for the Dale Carnegie franchisee that oversees Kentucky, Southern Indiana, and Cincinnati Ohio

Education and Certifications

  • B.A. in Speech Communications from Southern Illinois University
  • 22 years as a trainer and is now certified to develop and endorse other Dale Carnegie Trainers
  • Certified in the following curriculum areas: human relations, conflict management, leadership, sales, presentations skills, process improvement, communications, and change management.

Leah King

Office Manager

Leah grew up in far Western Kentucky on the beautiful Lake Barkley and met her wonderful husband of 9 years, Erik King, at Berea College where they both studied music performance. Erik also works in the same Dale Carnegie Office as a Consultant!



B.A. in General Music from Berea College

M.Ed. in College Student Personnel from University of Louisville


Work Experience:

2016-Present-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie

2013-2015-University of Louisville, held multiple positions in College Housing and Admissions/Academic Counseling.

2011-2016-Hostess at J. Alexander’s.

2005-2010-Berea College, held multiple positions in Housing and Residence Life.


Cindi Carman

Training Consultant/Trainer

Cindi lives in Floyds Knobs, Indiana. She has worked with Dale Carnegie for the past 2 years and quickly become a trusted trainer.


Work Experience:

2016-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie


Erik King

Training Consultant

Erik King was born in the Philippines and grew up in Louisville, KY. He studied piano performance at Berea College, where he met his wife Leah King.

Work Experience:

2017-2018-Sullivan University Professional Development/Dale Carnegie

2015-2017-State Farm Insurance

2011-2015-J. Alexander’s Restaurant